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Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:05:00 - [1] CCP asked for logserver outputs from people experiencing desyncs. I seem to remember a few months back it was stated by a dev in the game development forum, that too few logs were provided and from those that came in, they weren't able to pinpoint any particular issues, other than 'desync? meh..'.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:41:00 - [2] Originally by: OJH Gall/Caldari militia had several "Create lag on purpose" events after they asked. That's fine, but if the problem is on the client and not on the server, all you get is 'our logs show nothing'. Players need to file bug reports with logserver outputs.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:44:00 - [3] Originally by: 5pinDizzy So how many logserver desyncs would be enough exactly? If they can't find a problem with 100, what difference is 1000 going to make? It may make a big difference. If there is some statistical variance in how this bug manifests itself, then 100 reports may be way to small a sample to get an idea as to what is going on.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 18:41:00 - [4] In this propaganda video by Pandemic Legion, at one point he notes that he has the same target locked four times, and has the entering space loop, which people have described in FW. If this is the same issue FW people are seeing, that means it isn't a FW-specific issue.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.09 09:53:00 - [5] Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 09/06/2009 09:54:44 I am sure some people have already filed bugreports with logserver output. Still, every little bit helps, so keep filing bugreports with logserver output from lagfights. Basically, whenever you plan of fleeting, you should have your logserver up and running. Even if you have already filed five reports, it still helps to file more.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.11 19:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Richard Third Originally by: Nareg Maxence Originally by: OJH Gall/Caldari militia had several "Create lag on purpose" events after they asked. That's fine, but if the problem is on the client and not on the server, all you get is 'our logs show nothing'. Players need to file bug reports with logserver outputs. The problem is not the reporting. 17 vs 17 results in horrendous lag. Is anyone disputing this? NO! You don't seem to get it. The problem is that to diagnose why exactly the problem occurs, you need data from as many people as possible, the more the better. Just mindlessly shouting on the forum for updates doesn't help the situation in any way.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.11 19:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Dark Ooz Edited by: Dark Ooz on 11/06/2009 18:37:01 Hmmm. Been in fleet battles every day over the past week, and it's just lagtastic. Completely unplayable, whether it's 30v30 or 50v50. What's up with this, CCP? Were you recording the session on logserver? Did you file a bugreport? No?
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.11 19:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Sapporo Ichiban FW vs. pirates causes the same amount of lag It has been reported in 0.0 as well.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.11 20:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Allen Ramses Logservers are useless now, the problem has been verified as far as I'm concerned. Once again, not about verifying the issue. Everybody acknowledges it's there. This is about finding the cause.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.11 20:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Allen Ramses The problem IS the cause. Laggy FW battles are a by-product of that problem, which is insufficient network allocation. CCP, hire this person!!!! Originally by: CCP RyanD Status remains the same: Actively being investigated by engineering and virtual world operations. As soon as we have a specific resolution we will update the community. RyanD

Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Aurora Nyx Not sure why you have a problem with people trying to point out how bad CCP's response and attitude is. A big FYI here..... we had a MASS logserver event WITH CCP co-operation on the night. Half of our logservers crashed in the lag. There were still many, many sucessful logs taken and handed in. Since that event (which was quite a few months ago now), our pilots are STILL posting logserver files, reporting lag bugs, getting ships replaced on a REGULAR basis, and STILL we have nothing more than a "We're on it", which for a problem that makes the game unplayable as it was intended, is nothing short of laughable. CCP need to tell us what the hell is going on, FW has been in existence for over 1 year now with this terrible performance. My problem, is with people asking the same damn question over and over again, like a mindless parot repeating itself, when they already know the answer, because CCP RyanD stated it not two weeks ago in this very thread. Let me quote it for you once more. Originally by: CCP RyanD Status remains the same: Actively being investigated by engineering and virtual world operations. As soon as we have a specific resolution we will update the community. RyanD Let me translate it for you: Response = Eureka!!! No response = Still don't know what's causing it, sorry.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.12 09:37:00 - [12] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader They got rid of it before why not again. Strange. When was this exactly? As far as I know, FW fans have been complaining about this since the inception.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.16 08:01:00 - [13] CCP, do you still need logserver reports from TQ or are they not helpful?
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.16 11:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Nephilim Xeno reproducing it should be no problem, i am sure a lot of milita members would offer their help to reproduce it on either the test server or TQ, aslong as it helps fixing it faster and bringing fun battles back to FW ! but at least we finally got some response We already know that we can reproduce it. It already has been reproduced, as CCP had previously acknowledged in this thread. Nothing new has been added today! I guess you fell asleep reading the thread or something.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.10 07:22:00 - [15] ibanez0r, you might benefit from reading the pages efter page 1 of this thread.

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